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Phil T
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 Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:27 am Post subject: Sin Bins in lower leagues
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I do mean lower leagues .
| Quote: | The Football Association will trial 'sin bins' in the lower leagues of English football from next season.
The FA plans to introduce what it calls "temporary dismissals" in England's step seven - six tiers below the National League - and the leagues below.
They will only apply to yellow cards shown for dissent, and will see players leave the field for 10 minutes.
It will also be tested in Sunday League and male and female youth football.
More than 1,000 clubs received emails over the weekend asking if they were willing to be part of the pilot process.
Clubs are normally charged a £10 fine for each yellow card but the FA will not be charging this administration fee for those that participate.
Step seven is the bottom level of English football's National League System, which feeds into the country's professional leagues.
The highest league within that structure - step one - is the National League
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Red, Red & Red
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Sin Bins in lower leagues
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| Phil T wrote: | I do mean lower leagues .
| Quote: | The Football Association will trial 'sin bins' in the lower leagues of English football from next season.
The FA plans to introduce what it calls "temporary dismissals" in England's step seven - six tiers below the National League - and the leagues below.
They will only apply to yellow cards shown for dissent, and will see players leave the field for 10 minutes.
It will also be tested in Sunday League and male and female youth football.
More than 1,000 clubs received emails over the weekend asking if they were willing to be part of the pilot process.
Clubs are normally charged a £10 fine for each yellow card but the FA will not be charging this administration fee for those that participate.
Step seven is the bottom level of English football's National League System, which feeds into the country's professional leagues.
The highest league within that structure - step one - is the National League
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Madness and I think it will be difficult for refs to keep control in these temporary situations, does it not also send out a covert message that the offence is ok i.e. we punish in a small way; cant see it catching on longer term as surely that show the men booted and suited run and make money and are able to run the county FAs and so on |
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Ian
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject:
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| ^^ RR&R complains about something. How novel. |
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Phil T
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject:
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He has a point. Do the clubs now have to build a 'holding' pen for those serving their 10 mins?
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Red, Red & Red
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject:
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| Phil T wrote: | He has a point. Do the clubs now have to build a 'holding' pen for those serving their 10 mins?
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and with minimum no. players on pitch and red having time keep player a player b and player c all off/on different times i think its unworkable especially at grass roots level. |
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Phil T
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject:
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The referees will look like an 'old campaigner' soldier, only instead of a row of medals he'll have a row of stopwatches.
Here's a thought, if there is a brawl (or for some other reason) five players of one team are sin-binned, does the game continue? |
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thad
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Having spent time in North America I have seen a fair bit of... er.."Hawkeey".. where sin bins are an integral feature of the game... but a crucial difference is that both side have specialist power-play teams to deploy when there is an uneven match-up.
I'm not sure the mindset in football has the required imagination, would a team chuck a centre-half up front to capitalise on the situation..? or drag a centre-forward back to repel it..? I doubt it, because the instinct seems to be to regardlessly retain the shape.
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nemo
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:04 pm Post subject:
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Well as an idea at least the offence would be dealt with against the team it was perpetrated on instead of other teams potentially benefitting down the line from future player bans.
The idea has some merit and already works well in RU so it's gotta be worth trailing in football to see how it goes. |
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