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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Standing at Football Matches Reply with quote

The Football League clubs met yesterday and agreed to pursue further the issue of standing areas in grounds, including a hope to have them at Championship grounds.

http://www.football-league.co......34_3658021

A step in the right direction?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all for standing in non-seating areas.

At the last away game I attended at both Port Vale and Crystal Palace the game was completely spoiled by individuals standing in front of me in the seating area.

In both cases the stewards did nothing when I requested them to get the selfish gits to sit down.

Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


I didn't think that it happened in seated areas either. So the comparison is misleading, and I'd suggest, unfortunate.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notso wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


I didn't think that it happened in seated areas either. So the comparison is misleading, and I'd suggest, unfortunate.


And the 'cages' are no longer in use.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Won't the surge be broken up by all those rows of plastic and the fact the density of people per square metre at Hillsborough was in the region of 10 times greater than that in a seated area

Talk about over dramatising!

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
I'm all for standing in non-seating areas.

At the last away game I attended at both Port Vale and Crystal Palace the game was completely spoiled by individuals standing in front of me in the seating area.

In both cases the stewards did nothing when I requested them to get the selfish gits to sit down.

Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


Plenty of room at both games to have moved to a spot where you could have sat down and seen the game. To make any connection to Hillsborough is both over dramatic and naive of what actually occurred there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
I'm all for standing in non-seating areas.

At the last away game I attended at both Port Vale and Crystal Palace the game was completely spoiled by individuals standing in front of me in the seating area.

In both cases the stewards did nothing when I requested them to get the selfish gits to sit down.

Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.


Cool


biggest load of tosh I've read on here for a long time!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How mamy more lives must be lost before the stupidity of a return to the terrace days at these large stadiums can be dropped forever
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red, Red & Red wrote:
How mamy more lives must be lost before the stupidity of a return to the terrace days at these large stadiums can be dropped forever


where has anyone mentioned a return to the terraces?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bianchiboy wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
I'm all for standing in non-seating areas.

At the last away game I attended at both Port Vale and Crystal Palace the game was completely spoiled by individuals standing in front of me in the seating area.

In both cases the stewards did nothing when I requested them to get the selfish gits to sit down.

Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


Plenty of room at both games to have moved to a spot where you could have sat down and seen the game. To make any connection to Hillsborough is both over dramatic and naive of what actually occurred there.


Obviously you didn't attend the Palace games where a group of us moved away from the standing GITS and were then told to return to our allocated seats by the stewards. Yes there was a large area where no one was sitting.

It was only when I made a few suggestions to the GIT in front of me that HE moved away and the pathetic steward ignored him.

It appears that by raising the possibility of persons being injured that supporters of standing in the seating area have woken up and shown their true colours.

I hope the Crawley safety staff and stewards make sure this selfish attitude is stamped out.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notso wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


I didn't think that it happened in seated areas either. So the comparison is misleading, and I'd suggest, unfortunate.


Or just plain silly.

What would they do, hurdle over 20 rows of seats on the way down?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
Bianchiboy wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
I'm all for standing in non-seating areas.

At the last away game I attended at both Port Vale and Crystal Palace the game was completely spoiled by individuals standing in front of me in the seating area.

In both cases the stewards did nothing when I requested them to get the selfish gits to sit down.

Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


Plenty of room at both games to have moved to a spot where you could have sat down and seen the game. To make any connection to Hillsborough is both over dramatic and naive of what actually occurred there.


Obviously you didn't attend the Palace games where a group of us moved away from the standing GITS and were then told to return to our allocated seats by the stewards. Yes there was a large area where no one was sitting.

It was only when I made a few suggestions to the GIT in front of me that HE moved away and the pathetic steward ignored him.

It appears that by raising the possibility of persons being injured that supporters of standing in the seating area have woken up and shown their true colours.

I hope the Crawley safety staff and stewards make sure this selfish attitude is stamped out.

Cool


You're referencing Hillsborough yet the situation you mention happened at an all-seater stadium.

Weird, just weird.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon wrote:
notso wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


I didn't think that it happened in seated areas either. So the comparison is misleading, and I'd suggest, unfortunate.


Or just plain silly.

What would they do, hurdle over 20 rows of seats on the way down?


I didn't see you as a 'standing in the seated area' supporter Simon. It looks as if the review of standing at grounds needs to be implemented quickly.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonyt wrote:
Simon wrote:
notso wrote:
Tonyt wrote:
Get it sorted before someone decides to push them forward when a goal is scored and those at the front are crushed, injured are killed.

Hillsborough proved it can happen, but then it wasn't a goal that caused it.

Cool


I didn't think that it happened in seated areas either. So the comparison is misleading, and I'd suggest, unfortunate.


Or just plain silly.

What would they do, hurdle over 20 rows of seats on the way down?


I didn't see you as a 'standing in the seated area' supporter Simon. It looks as if the review of standing at grounds needs to be implemented quickly.

Shocked


I must say Tony you have me stumped here, as I haven't a clue what you are going on about.

I'm struggling with the comments about there being a crush when a goal is scored - surely seats would actually act as a natural 'break' and prevent that happening. Also what is the relevance to your comment about Hillsborough? That was a terraced area and the circumstances totally different.

Also when you refer to 'Crawley safety staff and stewards' stamping it out are you talking about a problem at home games? In my experience any standing in the West Stand is quickly jumped on by the stewards near us.

I do have sympathy when this happens at away games as it can also be a problem for youngsters trying to see. In the past I have found a quiet word does the trick. It's not as if we take thousands away, as Dan keeps telling us, and I have found the standing is usually in the back rows anyway. Labelling your fellow supporters as gits probably doesn't help.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope the new safe standing gets the go-ahead. Personally I hope it starts a revolution of football going back to how it was 20 years ago....FUN.

I hope it will lead to lower wages (maybe even a cap), lower ticket prices. Police having less say on what happens at football, and less power. Also maybe it will go back to the times when you could shout out, give a player some stick even get away with an odd swear word and not be accused of being a Hooligan and getting banned or thrown out! Maybe will even stop seeing Stewards manhandling people, especially younger people, after a goal is scored! Don't say it don't happen, just watch the football league show when they show the Leagues 1 and 2 goals!

FIGHT THE POWER!!!!
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