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notso
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 Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: The Bluebirds turn red
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If some of you thought that our new red and white strip is a bridge too far, check out the problems that Cardiff City have after changing their strip from blue to red.
Kinda strange for a club nicknamed the Bluebirds!
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Town_Two
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Plenty of examples exist for clubs that have changed their colours in the past.
Leeds United, Palace. Even Manchester United played in a hideous vile version of a Norwich strip-when they were known by another name as well! (Newton Heath) |
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Captain Yellow
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject:
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I wouldn't say that there are "plenty of examples" and most changes have happened relatively early in a club's history.
Leeds had only been consistently yellow and blue for about 30 yrs before Revie turned them white.
ManUre have played in red shirts since 1902.
Palace have always been various shades of red/blue (with flirtations of the red/blue appearing on white).
The closest modern example is probably Luton changing from white to orange in the early 70s.
Ever since the club became Cardiff City in 1908 they have played in blue shirts, so this is a pretty major upheaval. Shirt colour is a major part of a club's identity, even more since the purchase of replica shirts by fans became commonplace - think of all the red colouring around the Broadfield! The club badge has also been changed to a red dragon. To introduce such a radical change on an owner's whim and, seemingly, against the wishes of the vast majority is not a nice development. Perhaps the owners are going to change the club name as well to Wrexham South? |
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thad
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Bluebirds turn red
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| notso wrote: | | If some of you thought that our new red and white strip is a bridge too far, check out the problems that Cardiff City have after changing their strip from blue to red. |
Scientific fact... The more red in your strip... the higher the psychological advantage over the opposition... particularly if they are wearing meek submissive white shorts  |
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Damo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject:
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| Captain Yellow wrote: |
Ever since the club became Cardiff City in 1908 they have played in blue shirts, so this is a pretty major upheaval. Shirt colour is a major part of a club's identity, even more since the purchase of replica shirts by fans became commonplace - think of all the red colouring around the Broadfield! The club badge has also been changed to a red dragon. To introduce such a radical change on an owner's whim and, seemingly, against the wishes of the vast majority is not a nice development. Perhaps the owners are going to change the club name as well to Wrexham South? |
That's putting it mildly. However, the sweetener is an investment of £100m. Well, when they say investment, they're actually talking about adding to the debt with further loans (repayable at 7% interest to the owners) with some vague notion of converting debt to equity if they ever make the prem and/or get Sam Hammam off their backs. In the mean time the fans are forced to put up with a radical change in shirt colour and a new badge that looks like a 1970's beer mat - as you say, all on the whim of a very rich man.
Modern football, eh? |
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Phil T
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject:
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The change to a red kit is apparently to exploit the fact that red is considered a lucky colour in a number of Asian countries.
Being a follower of Cardiff City, I'm not convinced myself....
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Town_Two
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:45 am Post subject:
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[quote= seemingly, against the wishes of the vast majority is not a nice development. Perhaps the owners are going to change the club name as well to Wrexham South?[/quote]
Oh I suspect that the "vast majority" are looking at the 100 million quid bung and quietly going along with it.....
For that sort of money they probably could change the name to Taffies United without much of a grumble as well. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:33 am Post subject:
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Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
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NorthgateRed
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:
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| Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
Doesn't meant any of us would be happy about it though. And if there was considerable investment in the club off the back of it, it would be a change worth making. Would we change from Red Devils to Blue Nuns?  |
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thad
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:28 am Post subject:
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| Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
Just so long as there are no white shorts involved  |
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Town_Two
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:
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| Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
Given I'm a 'make CTFC your second team' person. I wouldn't have any problem with blue at all.
(and no, I'm definitely NOT Chelsea!) |
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Damo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject:
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| Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
That's a really interesting question (in my view  ).
You hardcore few hundred and so who have followed Crawley from Town Mead - how would you feel if next season the kit was turned to blue?. Let's say the badge carries a blue tiger (or something) because the owner quite likes the idea.
Would the chant be "come on you blues" from the first game onwards? . Would you be a bit peeved but shrug your shoulders and get on with it? Or would you walk away in the hope that the owner gets the message quickly that your cherished heritage is not to be messed with?
Just asking. You may ask - what relevance has this to us? My own view is that football is on a path where any club could fall victim to this nonsense. |
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Simon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject:
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| I am Damo Suzuki wrote: | | Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
That's a really interesting question (in my view ).
You hardcore few hundred and so who have followed Crawley from Town Mead - how would you feel if next season the kit was turned to blue?. Let's say the badge carries a blue tiger (or something) because the owner quite likes the idea.
Would the chant be "come on you blues" from the first game onwards? . Would you be a bit peeved but shrug your shoulders and get on with it? Or would you walk away in the hope that the owner gets the message quickly that your cherished heritage is not to be messed with?
Just asking. You may ask - what relevance has this to us? My own view is that football is on a path where any club could fall victim to this nonsense. |
Depends if it was also accompanied by a "substantial transfer kitty". |
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Damo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject:
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| Simon wrote: | | I am Damo Suzuki wrote: | | Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
That's a really interesting question (in my view ).
You hardcore few hundred and so who have followed Crawley from Town Mead - how would you feel if next season the kit was turned to blue?. Let's say the badge carries a blue tiger (or something) because the owner quite likes the idea.
Would the chant be "come on you blues" from the first game onwards? . Would you be a bit peeved but shrug your shoulders and get on with it? Or would you walk away in the hope that the owner gets the message quickly that your cherished heritage is not to be messed with?
Just asking. You may ask - what relevance has this to us? My own view is that football is on a path where any club could fall victim to this nonsense. |
Depends if it was also accompanied by a "substantial transfer kitty". |
Really? so how much of a value would you place on the club colours and
badge? £100k,? £1m? More?
I'm really not having any sort of a go here. I'm genuinely interested. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:
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| I am Damo Suzuki wrote: | | Simon wrote: | | I am Damo Suzuki wrote: | | Phil T wrote: | Out of interest, if Crawley Town FC were to change the home colours to blue, how many people would stop supporting the team?
I suspect very few....... |
That's a really interesting question (in my view ).
You hardcore few hundred and so who have followed Crawley from Town Mead - how would you feel if next season the kit was turned to blue?. Let's say the badge carries a blue tiger (or something) because the owner quite likes the idea.
Would the chant be "come on you blues" from the first game onwards? . Would you be a bit peeved but shrug your shoulders and get on with it? Or would you walk away in the hope that the owner gets the message quickly that your cherished heritage is not to be messed with?
Just asking. You may ask - what relevance has this to us? My own view is that football is on a path where any club could fall victim to this nonsense. |
Depends if it was also accompanied by a "substantial transfer kitty". |
Really? so how much of a value would you place on the club colours and
badge? £100k,? £1m? More?
I'm really not having any sort of a go here. I'm genuinely interested. |
Honest answer - I don't know, but in Cardiff's case it has paid off legacy debts and given them a chance to push on to the next level.
In any case with this season's shirt we seem to have half moved away from the red.... |
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